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| − | top tip in doing Purvis: Use the new referencing format and not the old one (which is currently on the page).
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| | 1. go to the bottom of the page and add the following at the bottom of the page | | 1. go to the bottom of the page and add the following at the bottom of the page |
| | <nowiki>==Notes==</nowiki> | | <nowiki>==Notes==</nowiki> |
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| | 2. When you need to insert a reference insert it immediately after the quote: | | 2. When you need to insert a reference insert it immediately after the quote: |
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| | 'Blah, blah, blah'<nowiki><ref> George Bush, '[URL Blah, blah, blah]' The Guardian, date, page etc</ref>==Notes==</nowiki> | | 'Blah, blah, blah'<nowiki><ref> George Bush, '[URL Blah, blah, blah]' The Guardian, date, page etc</ref>==Notes==</nowiki> |
| | This will then appear in the correct order at the bottom | | This will then appear in the correct order at the bottom |
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| | More guidance here: [[SpinProfiles:A_Guide_to_Referencing|A guide to referencing]] | | More guidance here: [[SpinProfiles:A_Guide_to_Referencing|A guide to referencing]] |
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| − | also, you should note that each of the 12 entries draws on Andy's reprot, but make sure that you include all the original references.
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| | --[[User:David|David]] 16:41, 4 November 2008 (UTC) | | --[[User:David|David]] 16:41, 4 November 2008 (UTC) |
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| − | HI Barcin
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| − | Nice article on Klaus-Heiner Lehne. I have a query: can you please source this denial, which is in one of your references, as the link provided doesn't actually contain any reference to the denial:--
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| − | In 2005, a spokesman for SAP denied working with Taylor Wessing.
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| − | Hi Barcin
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| − | Fascinating article on the microchipping guy Jorgo Chatzimarkakis. I was especially interested in the following para and thought that our readers (myself included) would value a short section at the end on what applications the chips might have in practice, in the fields of pharma, health (is this putting the names of people's medications onto their microchip??), agriculture (microchipping patented crops??), transport, logistics, transport (no more speeding or stealing cars?), etc. A lot of people, many journalists included, are naive about microchips and think that the technology is only intended for prisoners, waste bins and pets!
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| − | :Through STOA, Chatzimarkakis has pushed RFID,[17] and “has been busy organising events to raise awareness of the RFID technological revolution”.[18] At one STOA event in 2006, he talked about the “promising application potential” of RFID, especially in the fields of pharmaceuticals, health, agriculture, transport, logistics, and security.[19]
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| − | Got yr note about the ref from Andy R, excellent.
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| − | --[[User:Claire Robinson|Claire Robinson]] 17:33, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
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| − | yes, do it at the end. Did you get my email forwarding Andy's respose to your query?
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| − | --[[User:David|David]] 19:27, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
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| − | Also, can you remember of add the Conflicts of Interest category where appropriate and also the Revolving doors one if it is best?
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| − | --[[User:David|David]] 19:30, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
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| − | == clarification ok? ==
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| − | HI Barcin
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| − | edited the Eija-Riitta Korhola section on conflicts of interest to clarify that it was the writer (I believe this is the writer's name?), Jussi Karmala, rather than the magazine/newspaper this person was writing in, that said this. pls check edit OK.
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| − | --[[User:Claire Robinson|Claire Robinson]] 20:16, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
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| − | Hi Barcin
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| − | I'm really excited that you have added the RFID page, because this is exactly the kind of public education that I think we need to do as an addition to exposing individuals and groups. I think it's very good and clear.
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| − | Initial thoughts for possible addition/expansion to the following sentence--
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| | "Porter, in his article, mentions the outcomes of a system being employed, and used by the state for social and political control of its people" | | "Porter, in his article, mentions the outcomes of a system being employed, and used by the state for social and political control of its people" |
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| | Are there any places in the world where mental patients, prisoners on day release, old folks with Alzheimer's etc. are chipped to stop them wandering off? What's insidious is that we are told that these things are for our own good, whereas the ultimate aim may well not be in our interests. | | Are there any places in the world where mental patients, prisoners on day release, old folks with Alzheimer's etc. are chipped to stop them wandering off? What's insidious is that we are told that these things are for our own good, whereas the ultimate aim may well not be in our interests. |
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| − | Anyway, great work.
| + | --[[User:Claire Robinson|Claire Robinson]] 22:03, 19 November 2008 (UTC) |
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| − | best, --[[User:Claire Robinson|Claire Robinson]] 22:03, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
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| | PS re categories, I think we need new category like "surveillance society" or "surveillance" or similar, if David agrees? I couldn't see any categories that fit the subject. It's an important subject for us. | | PS re categories, I think we need new category like "surveillance society" or "surveillance" or similar, if David agrees? I couldn't see any categories that fit the subject. It's an important subject for us. |
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| − | Hi Barcin
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| − | Superb!! Educational and informative. I learned a lot. I have edited only for clarity/English idiom and other minor things.
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| − | Thank you so much for taking the time to write this. You may want to check my edits and make sure that your meaning has survived intact.
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| − | --[[User:Claire Robinson|Claire Robinson]] 20:01, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
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| − | == PS clarification on RFID ==
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| − | Barcin
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| − | I forgot--I have just one question--in the following passage--
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| − | Implementation of such a vulnerable technology prone to viral attacks and hacking can be viewed as an economic threat, in the case of companies using it and spreading its use to enlarge their marketing system
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| − | Economic threat to whom? Is this about companies using RFID to sell more stuff to more people? In an illegal or legal way? I can imagine that the powers-that-be might think companies selling more stuff was a good thing, in which case who/what would be threatened?… can you unpack the meaning here a bit/clarify? as it's not clear to me.
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| − | thank you! --[[User:Claire Robinson|Claire Robinson]] 20:04, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
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| − | HI Barcin
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| − | thanks for clarifying that sentence. Hope you're proud of your article!
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| − | --[[User:Claire Robinson|Claire Robinson]] 12:28, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
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| − | HI Barcin
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| − | no, I would not call these language mistakes! your article made perfect sense, was well planned and argued, and could be understood by anyone, which is the most important thing. The edits I made were very superficial things and actually easy for me to do, to improve clarity and to fit the more usual English idioms. It's not correction but polishing. Conversely, with some writers whose first language is English, it is impossible or difficult for me to work out what they are trying to say! That kind of writing requires more than polishing from the editor--it's a matter of rewriting mixed with guesswork on the editor's part and is certainly not easy.
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| − | I would love it if you could do more writing for us -- but I know this is a difficult thing when you are working as a volunteer and are short of time. So I will have no expectations but will be delighted when I see articles from you...
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| − | best, Claire
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| − | great stuff on the stub profiles. Two formatting issues:
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| | 1. can you follow the guidance at [[A Guide to Referencing]] and specifically do: author, Title(link), publication date, pages, accessed etc ... | | 1. can you follow the guidance at [[A Guide to Referencing]] and specifically do: author, Title(link), publication date, pages, accessed etc ... |
| | 2. When linking to a company that they are now with can you enclose the co in [[brackets]] eg [[Cinven]] and then paste the url/website afterwards in (brackets)? | | 2. When linking to a company that they are now with can you enclose the co in [[brackets]] eg [[Cinven]] and then paste the url/website afterwards in (brackets)? |
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| | --[[User:David|David]] 01:24, 26 November 2008 (UTC) | | --[[User:David|David]] 01:24, 26 November 2008 (UTC) |
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| − | Whoah! this is horrible. I did create a new page, I think yesterday, but did not change anything (wouldn't know how to). But there is another way to create a new page that you can try, using the following page as an example. Just open a new window in yr browser and type in the url of the page you want to create, using underscore for any spaces, eg
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| − | up will come a page with your new title saying there is no text. I think then you go to edit and start typing and there you are, a new page.
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| − | I will contact our techie man, Bill, and ask him to fix the article sub page but he will not be there until tomorrow.
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| − | let me know if the above does not work.
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| − | --[[User:Claire Robinson|Claire Robinson]] 18:08, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
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| − | Hi Barcin
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| − | Derek Roland Clark (born 10 October 1933, Bristol) is an MEP from UK Independence Party. He is an enthusiastic supporter of conventional methods of producing food, medicine and the use of natural resources, rejecting any sustainable methods of production.[1]
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| − | thanks! good work getting all these MEPs up there on the site.
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| − | --[[User:Claire Robinson|Claire Robinson]] 11:56, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
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Referencing
1. go to the bottom of the page and add the following at the bottom of the page
==Notes==
<references/>
This tells the system to put the refs at the bottom
2. When you need to insert a reference insert it immediately after the quote:
'Blah, blah, blah'<ref> George Bush, '[URL Blah, blah, blah]' The Guardian, date, page etc</ref>==Notes==
This will then appear in the correct order at the bottom
More guidance here: A guide to referencing
--David 16:41, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
RFID
"Porter, in his article, mentions the outcomes of a system being employed, and used by the state for social and political control of its people"
A couple of sentences on how exactly they can control people/society with it would be usefully terrifying. I have heard rumours about the government being able to suddenly turn off a switch in yr microchip and you can't buy anything, use bank accounts etc as your life has been effectively frozen. And this of course without the necessary predecessor of judicial trial. Any sentence or two that gives a hint of the powers they would have over us would be great. Maybe quote the sentences from Porter article--it's good.
Are there any places in the world where mental patients, prisoners on day release, old folks with Alzheimer's etc. are chipped to stop them wandering off? What's insidious is that we are told that these things are for our own good, whereas the ultimate aim may well not be in our interests.
--Claire Robinson 22:03, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
categories: surveillance/ surveillance society
PS re categories, I think we need new category like "surveillance society" or "surveillance" or similar, if David agrees? I couldn't see any categories that fit the subject. It's an important subject for us.
Claire
references and links
1. can you follow the guidance at A Guide to Referencing and specifically do: author, Title(link), publication date, pages, accessed etc ...
2. When linking to a company that they are now with can you enclose the co in brackets eg Cinven and then paste the url/website afterwards in (brackets)?
--David 01:24, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
