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| − | To 'wikify' that list of members of the Wind energy assoc do the following:
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| − | #paste into word.
| + | == questions == |
| − | #use find and replace command in the edit menu
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| − | #Find ^p (paragraph mark)
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| − | #replace with ]] | [[
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| − | # paste back into spinprofiles
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| − | #.... that's it!!
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| − | --[[User:David|David]] 11:58, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
| + | HI Miriam |
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| − | == good stuff - formatting and tone ==
| + | About FoI, I have asked David to reply to you on that as he is the expert on FoI requests. |
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| − | Good work on the various lobby groups. some suggestions. Look at the formatting changes I made to the [[Climate Group]] page and in particular the use of colons to indent para's. Also on tone: can you try and avoid evaluations such as calling the corporations 'dirty' unless you can provide evidence there and then. We try and keep the database as factual as possible in order that it can be more useful.
| + | re who's running Act on Cop, I can only find this re their website -- seems to be a govt thing purely |
| | + | http://www.actoncopenhagen.decc.gov.uk/en/about |
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| − | also, in building a profile you should list al the member of any organisation. if it is a longish list then it should go at the bottom of the page and then you can refer in summary to some of the more important/dodgy companies further up. Make sense?
| + | at foot of page. |
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| | + | re who's running Road to Cop, see http://www.roadtocopenhagen.org/ and click on Sponsors and Partners at foot of page. |
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| − | Keep up the good work
| + | assume you know about |
| | + | http://www.spinprofiles.org/index.php/Copenhagen_2009:_Who%27s_Who |
| | + | as to who is sponsoring COP15, quite scary--I know you have worked on this page recently so sure you do know. |
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| − | --[[User:David|David]] 19:35, 12 February 2009 (UTC) | + | re an article, wd be fantastic if you could do one re who's running all these joints -- personally I think that the "who's running COP 15" topic is food enough but would be good if you could find out anything more. NB we need to addres that question about, does it matter that car cos, airline cos etc sponsor these things as they have been part of prob. but maybe it's good because they can also be part of solution?? what way are car and airline cos going re the fuel they depend on? do they want to prolong the oil culture? |
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| − | == David Green ==
| + | if you do an article -- can be very plain, just who and what -- then we can publicise thru twitter, spinwatch etc. |
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| − | Did you see what i did with [[David Green]]?
| + | pls do add to climate portal page whatever you like -- this is definitely the idea of spin and my role is just to make sure that dodgy stuff doesn't go in and to edit what does go in, in line with our style, grammar etc. continuous improvement is the idea... |
| − | See also the link on the UKBCSE page which just says David Green but diverts to the correct page...
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| − | Follow how to do this?
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| − | --[[User:David|David]] 10:18, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
| + | many thanks for your great work. |
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| − | == talk pages and Green ==
| + | --[[User:Claire Robinson|Claire Robinson]] 12:45, 29 November 2009 (UTC) |
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| − | Yes, through the talk pages.
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| − | Also on green:
| + | --[[User:Claire Robinson|Claire Robinson]] 14:15, 7 April 2010 (UTC) |
| − | *[[David Green]] goes to the page with a list of three David Green's
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| − | *[[David Green (renewables lobbyist)]] goes directly to the correct page
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| − | But:
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| − | *<nowiki>[[David Green (renewables lobbyist)|David Green]]</nowiki>
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| − | goes to the correct page but displays as:
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| − | *[[David Green (renewables lobbyist)|David Green]]
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| − | See now?
| + | == re Wyn Jones == |
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| − | --[[User:David|David]] 11:41, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
| + | HI Miriam |
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| − | == Wind energy == | + | http://www.spinprofiles.org/index.php?title=Wyn_Jones |
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| − | [[Bellenden Public Affairs]] - lobbying for the Wind Energy lobby group...
| + | i have wyn jones getting OBE in 2004 in this article |
| | + | http://www.nebusiness.co.uk/business-news/interviews-with-business-people/2008/08/26/defender-of-jobs-foresees-new-battle-51140-21603807/ |
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| − | --[[User:David|David]] 19:30, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
| + | you have 2003, not sure which is right. looked for the source you mention, Newcastle Journal, |
| | + | THE JOURNAL (Newcastle, UK). 'Jonny's made it a palace hat-trick', December 31, 2003 |
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| − | == Ian Marchant ==
| + | found a Gale Cengage archive source |
| | + | http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Jonny%27s+made+it+a+palace+hat-trick.%28News%29-a0111757170 |
| | + | but doesn't mention wyn jones. can u try to sort? |
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| − | Hi Miriam
| + | many thanks |
| | + | --[[User:Claire Robinson|Claire Robinson]] 13:56, 16 May 2010 (UTC) |
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| − | welcome to Spin!
| + | ==Al Federation== |
| | + | HI Miriam |
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| − | Just a style point: can you lead into the Ian Marchant quote with some kind of context? see
| + | http://www.spinprofiles.org/index.php?title=Aluminium_Federation |
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| − | http://www.spinprofiles.org/index.php/SpinProfiles:How_to_Structure_an_Article#Put_quotes_in_context
| + | few little things: |
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| − | lets the reader know who's speaking and context?
| + | 1. can u give source for this |
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| − | also I have put in a weblink to your source--have a look at the way I've formatted it in the ref, making the title of the article into the link. it's good always to put in links where they exist. | + | ALFED also run the All-Party Parliamentary Group for the UK Aluminium Industry. |
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| − | many thanks and keep up the good work
| + | 2. if using indented block quotes (using a colon to indent block quote), don't use quote marks in addition, unless you need them for quotes within the quote, if that makes sense. |
| − | --[[User:Claire Robinson|Claire Robinson]] 21:01, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
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| − | == PS ==
| + | 3. use colon to lead into quotes, not semicolon, and avoid using "that" before the quote, in constructions like "said that:" Just "said" is neater. eg |
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| − | Hi Miriam
| + | When he got into power in 2001, Smith appointed a biotech lobbyist as his environment secretary. Smith said: |
| | + | :I thought it was a good idea at the time. |
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| − | also when you've done with Marchant, don't forget to put in a category at the bottom of the article--you can choose from the categories listed on the categories page (go to toolbox at side of page, then special pages, then categories)--you have to spell it the same, incl any upper case characters--or if there is no good category, you can make up your own category. it will appear in red... click on it to go into the category page and type a sentence to describe the category (eg "all articles in the category xyz"). then the category will appear in blue whenever you use it to show that that category page exists.
| + | that's it! glad you are working on the Al industry. |
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| − | any q's just click on my signature below to go to talk page and leave msj.
| + | BW |
| | + | --[[User:Claire Robinson|Claire Robinson]] 14:17, 16 May 2010 (UTC) |
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| − | thanks... --[[User:Claire Robinson|Claire Robinson]] 21:06, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
| + | == coding names of lords etc == |
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| − | == useful on corporate capture of sustainable development ==
| + | Hi Miriam |
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| − | http://www.theglobalsite.ac.uk/press/012sklair.htm
| + | a quickie on doing the coding when you talk about a person other than by their real name, eg if they are a Lord or Baroness, as in |
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| − | == Feedback == | + | http://www.spinprofiles.org/index.php?title=All-Party_Parliamentary_Group_for_the_UK_Aluminium_Industry&action=edit§ion=4 |
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| − | HI,
| + | see how I've done these--it's real name first, and this will be the name of their page if they have one, and then a vertical line | , then the name they go by/are called in our article: |
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| − | MY COMMENTS IN CAPS SO YOU CAN SEE THEM.
| + | <nowiki>*[[Garfield Davies|Lord Davies of Coity]]</nowiki> |
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| − | I THINK YOU ARE DOING REALLY WELL. I WOULD ADVISE CONCENTRATING ON THE UKBCSE AND PROVIDING A REALLY GOOD PROIFILE AND CRITIQUE OF THEM. I THINK YOU HAVE THE MAIN LINE ON THIS WHICH IS THAT THEY FAVOUR MARKET BASED SOLUTIONS. THIS IS NOT SURPRISING, BUT IT IS NEW IN THE SENSE THAT NO-ONE SEEMS TO HAVE DONE A GOOD CREITIQUE OF THEM. SO FOCUS ON THAT AS YOU MAIN ARGUMENT AND USE THE PROFILE TO BUILD UP A PICTURE OF THEIR ACTIVITIES AND CONNECTIONS - INCLUDING BOTH OTHER LOBBY CONNECTIONS AND POLITICAL CONNECTIOSN OF THE COMPANIES AND THE GROUP ITSELF. - WHAT IS MANDELSON DOING THERE?!!!
| + | <nowiki>*[[David Brookman|Lord Brookman]]</nowiki> |
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| − | SOME COMMENTS IN THE TEXT BELOW:
| + | <nowiki>*[[Olive Nicol|Baroness Nicol]]</nowiki> |
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| − | Established in May 2001 as a business lobby to the Rio+10 summit in Johannesburg, and with sister organisations in Washington, Frankfurt and Melbourne(NAME THEM), the UKBCSE is a high powered energy lobby group pushing the government to incentivise growth in alternative energy technologies (wind and CHP WHAT IS CHP? in particular) and related green business potential for the benefit of their members, particularly through carbon markets. Despite its membership of oil and coal based energy providers UKBCSE pushes for strong carbon reduction targets to stimulate investment in alternatives.REFS NEEDED
| + | can u now go in and do |
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| − | MAYBE SAY THAT THIS APPEARS A CONTRADICTION WHIHC YOU WILL EXAMINE LATER?
| + | *[[Baroness Gardner of Parkes]] |
| | + | *[[Lord Davies of Coity]] |
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| − | PERHAPS MORE OF AN INTRO HERE?
| + | in same way? I look up their real names on wiki. |
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| − | The Council says of itself; "The UKBCSE brings together the Chief Executives of Centrica, EDF Energy, National Grid, E.ON UK, RWE NPower, Scottish and Southern Energy, Scottish Power, and United Utilities, as well as senior executives from Shell, BP, CE Electric, Air Products, International Power and Renewable Energy Systems.' (see discussion page?WHAT IS THAT? for brief details of these companies and relevance to UKBCSE)'
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| − | 'The UKBCSE aims to: • Provide a forum for dialogue between the UK energy industry, government and other stakeholders on the key issues shaping the deployment of sustainable energy; • Promote the policies, investment and commitment needed to secure market growth and sustain long term business planning; • Highlight the scope for technological and market innovation to deliver key environmental goals.
| + | --[[User:Claire Robinson|Claire Robinson]] 17:38, 16 May 2010 (UTC) |
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| − | Through an extensive programme of stakeholder consultation, the UKBCSE took the lead role for the UK Government in bringing together the UK Energy Sector input to the World Summit on Sustainable Development IN 2002.... At the World Summit, the UKBCSE worked with the UK Government to launch the Renewable Energy and Energy Efficiency Partnership (REEEP). WOULD BE GOOD TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE AN OVERVIEW OF THIS AND WHAT IS WRONG WITH IT - ALSO INCLUDE COMMENTARY ON THE CONFLICT OF INTEREST ETC ION PARTNERSHIP WITH GOVT
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| − | In the UK, the Council has taken an active role in the development of cross industry input into the UK energy review, and the succeeding Energy White Paper as well as the Review of the UK Climate Change Programme and a range of other cross cutting issues.REF?
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| − | The Council continues to take an active part in the Climate Change negotiations. It is involved in the international discussions about the structure of the second phase of the Kyoto protocol following the end of the first period of the Kyoto Protocol (2008-2012).REF?
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| − | The Council has also taken a key role in the development and delivery of the UK Prime Ministers agenda for his G8 and EU Presidencies. The Prime Minister, in his address to the G8 summit as it received the G8 Renewables Task Force Report, welcomed its creation: "We will work with the UK Business Council on Sustainable Energy to develop further initiatives to promote the use of renewable and sustainable energy.""[1]
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| − | The UKBCSE issues oft quoted (SOMEWHERE YOU NEED TO GIVE A BRIEF DESCRIPTION OF THIS AND SOME EVIDENCE OF HOW OFTEN THEY ARE QUOTED - MAYBE USE LEXIS TO SHOW THIS?)and publically respected reports and consultation documents and holds public events and campaigns around sustainable energy issues. They work closely with government, always praising government policy in their press releases, and often co publish with other quasi-governmental bodies such as the Electricity Networks Strategy Group (who appear to have almost exactly the same membership make-up, and The Climate Group.FOR EXAMPLE .... GIVE SOME STUFF ON THE PRAISE?
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| − | The Energy Networks Association shares membership makeup closely with the UKBCSE and is one of two members of Eurelectric representing the UK electricity companies. The other is the Association of Electricity Producers. Eurelectric is a powerful EU level electricity producers lobby promoting market based neoliberal approaches to emissions trading.
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| − | Electricity Networks Strategy Group | European Federation of Energy Traders | Renewable Energy Certificate System...share similar membership makeup.
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| − | [edit] History
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| − | [edit] Funding and finances
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| − | Peter Mandelson is a patron according to his press statements. [2]
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| − | [edit] People
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| − | Steve Holliday Chair. (Chief Executive, National Grid) | David Green (OBE) CEO | Pamela Rudolph Executive Assistant | John FrenchHead of Policy. | Clare Dudeney Policy Advisor | Laura Pennington Executive Support Assistant. | Kirsty Hamilton International Policy Consultant. | Judith Ward Policy Consultant.
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| − | Ex Chair Ian Marchant (Scottish and Southern Energy)
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| − | [edit] Members
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| − | Centrica | EDF Energy | E.ON UK | National Grid | RWE npower | Scottish Power | Scottish and Southern Energy | United Utilities
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| − | Air Products | CE Electric | International Power | Renewable Energy Systems(RES Group) | Shell
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| − | BP| CE Electric | Centrica | Drax Power | EDF Energy | International Power | National Grid Transco | Renewable Energy Systems | RWE npower | Scottish Power | Scottish and Southern Energy | Shell | United Utilities
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| − | ARE ANY OF THESE COMPANIES DOMINANT OR IS THERE EVIDENCE OF ANY STEERING TOWARDS SOME INTERESTS AND NOT OTHERS?
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| − | CUT ANY HEADINGS YOU DON'T NEED
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| − | [edit] Subsidiaries
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| − | "The UKBCSE's UK Policy programme covers a range of issues surrounding the development of all forms of sustainable energy (renewables, energy efficiency and Combined Heat and Power). Our current focus is on the implementation of the EU Emissions Trading Scheme; the development of energy efficiency policy; and ensuring the right regulatory framework is in place to stimulate investment in network infrastructure." [3]
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| − | In general, the emphasis of the UKBCSE is on creating the right economic conditions for a growth in the 'sustainable energy' sector, without negatively affecting energy suppliers. This means government support for less economically advantageous generation types (including supporting price rises for the customer) and ensuring carbon markets and trading schemes are agreed and effective. The also see opportunities for large scale growth in the green energy sector, emphasising that virtually the entire transmission, distribution and plant network will have to be renewed and rebuilt, stimulating business for their members. [4]
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| − | GIVE MORE DETAILS OF THEIR POLICY TO SUBSTANTIATE YOUR ARGUMENT
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| − | [edit] Summary of Policy Consultations and Official Reports
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| − | The Supplier Obligation. UKBCSE submitted a joint response with the Energy Retail Association to a call for evidence on the Supplier Obligation. Representing 'energy companies' the report repeatedly mentions the importance of energy efficiency and reducing energy demand in the UK. As with other UKBCSE literature there is emphasis on generating stable carbon markets and investor confidence;
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| − | 'companies agree that the long term objective of greenhouse gas abatement policy should be to unify frameworks to reveal a price for carbon' [5]
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| − | Another key message of the report is their concern that energy companies should not be held excessively responsible for energy demand reduction, for which considerable onus is also on government, building designers and other bodies (e.g the Energy Saving Trust).
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| − | The Council objects to government plan to change the banding system in favour of less developed technologies, claiming that it will affect investor confidence in established wind energy.
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| − | Finally there is contention about 'energy efficiency' versus 'low carbon' strategies, noting that 'Key players' believe 'carbon reduction' policies will facilitate more innovations and assist in fixing carbon price. [6]
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| − | By way of hypothesis, this language suggests that, contrary to earlier statements, the UKBCSE may support a growing demand for energy, but in the low carbon sector, allowing for economic growth of energy companies.
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| − | YES GOOD. NEEDS MORE HERE TO SUBSTANTIATE WHAT YOU ARE SAYING...
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| − | AND THEN SOMETHING TO SAY WHAT IS WRONG WITH THESE POLICIES
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| − | Report: Implementing the EU Renewable Energy Target in the UK Emerging Issues for Consideration[7]
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| − | This regularly referred to and quoted UKBCSE Report GIVE REFS, makes recommendations to the government's upcoming 'Renewable Energy Strategy' and claims to be a 'high level analysis' of the implications of the UK Renewables Obligation to generate 20% renewable energy by 2020. The report outlines potential capacity for expansion of renewable generation in the UK, focusing on onshore and offshore wind, with some mention of the Severn Barrage project. They estimate that 68GW of new build will be needed by 2020 to meet the target and back up capacity necessary (at 2006 levels, i.e not allowing for increase in energy demand). This will almost double the current usage of 76 GW (mainly due to the back up capacity needed for wind power which the report focuses on). However, available wind projects will only give an extra 16GW (though in the executive summary they give a figure of 38GW) (and Severn Barrage will not be online in time), leaving 50GW of demand capacity unmet, and 34GW of new transmission (powerlines etc) capacity needed. (Emphasis is put on the controvesial Beauly-Denny power line from Scotland to England which is being built by ex Chair Ian Marchant's Scottish and Southern Energy). They acknowledge that this is well short of the target.[8]
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| − | The report makes a number of recommendations to government regarding meeting the target.
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| − | High importance is given to certainty in Carbon markets, to encourage investment into renewable technologies. The government is urged to put pressure on European processes to make decisions about renewable credits trading possibilities and carbon credit cost price as soon as possible to stimulate markets. Changes to planning procedures through the 'Planning Reform Bill' are also emphasised as key, aswell as a need to make customers accept a rise in energy prices. These priorities strongly echo the themes of the 2007 Energy White Paper.[9]
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| − | A number of 'no regrets' policies are recommended, such as:
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| − | '*demonstrating commitment across all Departments to delivering the 2020 target;
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| − | * demonstrating Government commitment to continue its policies and measures designed to support renewable energy in order to ensure
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| − | * ensuring that in any revision of the existing statutory social and environmental guidance to Ofgem, Government gives a clear indication of the importance of Ofgem’s role in facilitating sustainable energy development;
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| − | * swift resolution of shorter-term transmission access reforms to enable full use of existing transmission infrastructure, and use of new transmission infrastructure as it is established;
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| − | * early resolution of the Government’s and EC’s position on the use of biomass and biofuels across heating, electricity and transport'[10]
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| − | Crucially, the report also seems to encourage a growth in energy demand in the UK (which is not surprising considering their membership):
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| − | 'The extent to which energy efficiency policies are implemented in the UK will have a significant impact on the amount of renewable energy that will be needed to meet the target. It is worth noting that the biggest opportunity for energy efficiency is in reducing heat consumption, and is less likely to impact on future demand for electricity. ' [11]
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| − | YUP. GOOD STUFF. MORE ON THIS
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| − | Grosvenor Gardens House. UKBCSE Offices
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| − | Grosvenor Gardens House. UKBCSE Offices
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| − | * Address: UK Business Council for Sustainable Energy
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| − | Grosvenor Gardens House 35/37 Grosvenor Gardens London SW1W 0BS
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| − | * Phone: Tel: 020 7976 6655
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| − | * Fax: Fax: 020 7828 0310
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| − | E-mail: info @ bcse.org.uk
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| | + | when doing a url in a ref, don't forget to include the http:// bit of the url or the hotlink doesn't work. so it should be: |
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| − | Registered office as above Registered in London No. 4275546
| + | <nowiki><ref>Aluminium Association News [http://www.secat.net/news/docs/Aluminum_Association_Board.pdf "Secat’s Subodh Das Elected Member of Aluminum Association Board"] Accessed 30/04/10</ref></nowiki> |
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| − | 1. ↑ UKBCSE, "UK BSCE Introduction", UKBCSE Introduction page. Accessed 12/02/09
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| − | 2. ↑ Mandelson throws down the gauntlet; Planning (UK. October 3, 2003
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| − | 3. ↑ UKBCSE, "UK BSCE UK Policy", UKBCSE UK Policy page. Accessed 27/02/09
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| − | 4. ↑ UKBCSE Submission to the Environmental Audit Commitee Inquiry: 'Keeping the Lights On: Nuclear, Renewables & Climate Change' Sept, 2005. "UKBCSE Submission to the Environmental Audit Commitee Inquiry: 'Keeping the Lights On: Nuclear, Renewables & Climate Change'", UKBCSE Consultation Responses page. Accessed 26/03/09.
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| − | 5. ↑ Joint ERA and UKBCSE submission to the Call for Evidence on the Supplier Obligation,p.2, Sept 2007. "UKBSCE Consultation Responses", UKBCSE Consultation Responses page. Accessed 24/03/09.
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| − | 6. ↑ Joint ERA and UKBCSE submission to the Call for Evidence on the Supplier Obligation, Sept 2007. "UKBSCE Consultation Responses", UKBCSE Consultation Responses page. Accessed 24/03/09.
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| − | 7. ↑ UKBCSE 'Implementing the EU Renewable Energy Target in the UK Emerging Issues for Consideration' May 2008, "UKBSCE News and Media", UKBCSE News and Media page. Accessed 05/03/09. page 19.
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| − | 8. ↑ UKBCSE 'Implementing the EU Renewable Energy Target in the UK Emerging Issues for Consideration' May 2008, "UKBSCE News and Media", UKBCSE News and Media page. Accessed 05/03/09
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| − | 9. ↑ BERR. Meeting the Energy Challenge: Energy White Paper 2007, "BERR Energy White Paper 2007", BERR website. Accessed 05/03/09
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| − | 10. ↑ UKBCSE 'Implementing the EU Renewable Energy Target in the UK Emerging Issues for Consideration' May 2008, "UKBSCE News and Media", UKBCSE News and Media page. Accessed 05/03/09. page 19.
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| − | 11. ↑ UKBCSE 'Implementing the EU Renewable Energy Target in the UK Emerging Issues for Consideration' May 2008, "UKBSCE News and Media", UKBCSE News and Media page. Accessed 05/03/09. page 7.
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| + | <nowiki><ref>Aluminium Association News [www.secat.net/news/docs/Aluminum_Association_Board.pdf "Secat’s Subodh Das Elected Member of Aluminum Association Board"] Accessed 30/04/10</ref></nowiki> |
| − | UK Business Council for Sustainable Energy Grosvenor Gardens House 35/37 Grosvenor Gardens London SW1W 0BS
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| − | Tel: 020 7976 6655 Fax: 020 7828 0310 E-mail: info @ bcse.org.uk
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| − | Registered office as above Registered in London No. 4275546
| + | thanks and BW |
| | + | --[[User:Claire Robinson|Claire Robinson]] 18:45, 17 May 2010 (UTC) |
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| − | == Jim Watson == | + | == coding the category on a person's page == |
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| | Hi Miriam | | Hi Miriam |
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| + | at the foot of a page with the name of a person as its title, in the category coding, you just need to add their name with surname first, then that page will arrange itself in the category under their surname. So on Kathryn Fuller's page (I've done that one so you can go into Edit and see what I've done) we have |
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| − | can you introduce with a brief sentence saying who he is? eg Joe Bloggs is a British politician who has become well known for his views on British Muslims, etc etc
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| − | this applies to all Spin articles--I am trying to get people to introduce their subjects in the same way as is done in, say, wiki articles.
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| − | thanks!
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| − | --[[User:Claire Robinson|Claire Robinson]] 13:02, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
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| − | HI Miriam
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| − | On length, it doesn't matter. At a certain length (see Erinys for example) the system keeps telling you the article is too long and it takes ages to load, so if one gets to that length it is better to split sections off into different pages, e.g. Bloggs Company in Nigeria, Bloggs Company in the US, or what seems logical. But there is no such thing as too short, in that if you only know one piece of info about someone/a group, you can put it in anyway and allow others to expand it. One guide you can use for the type of info to include is the headers given if you go thro Articles Submission procedure (recommended). or you can look at http://www.spinprofiles.org/index.php/SpinProfiles:How_to_Structure_an_Article which has some pointers. Of course if you are doing your spin work as part of your academic work then you will need to consult with David about how long your piece should be!
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| − | thanks and best wishes
| + | <nowiki>[[Category:Aluminium Industry|Fuller, Kathryn]]</nowiki> |
| − | --[[User:Claire Robinson|Claire Robinson]] 11:00, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
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| − | == PS ==
| + | if you can add this naming style to all your new pages, that'll be great. |
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| − | HI Miriam
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| − | another good technique if you want to include much good stuff eg from a report but are worried about length:
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| − | put a link to the report into the Resources section, as in Sense About Science page--this section gives link to article
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| − | "Nothing to declare – GM guide’s two-faced science"
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| − | which in itself is quite long. then on the linked-to page, make sure you include a link to the main article, eg
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| − | alternatively you can just load a pdf onto the site via Upload File feature in Toolbox on left menu of each page and link to that by saying something like,
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| − | <nowiki>Friends of the Earth's 2005 report, "Bad People in the Oil Industry" is available [http://www.badpeoplehere.org here]</nowiki>
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| − | (I think that coding is right -- no time to test now but think you leave space after the url and then put your link word, eg "here" so they can click on "here")
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| − | hope this is clear. going out soon but back this evening.
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| | BW | | BW |
| | + | --[[User:Claire Robinson|Claire Robinson]] 09:29, 19 May 2010 (UTC) |
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| − | --[[User:Claire Robinson|Claire Robinson]] 11:16, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
| + | == Henry Dickinson == |
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| − | should have mentioned the protocol for sub pages. They should in general be named with the name of the organisation and then a subtitle after a colon.
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| − | so [[Renewables Greenwash-Profile of the UK Business Council for Sustainable Energy.]] should be: [[UK Business Council for Sustainable Energy: Renewables Greenwash]]
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| − | --[[User:David|David]] 15:13, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
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| − | == lists ==
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| | Hi Miriam | | Hi Miriam |
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| − | In National Grid I have formatted the list of people using asterisks* rather than colon : as that way, you get nice bullet points. colon is v useful for indenting quotes etc. though.
| + | can u sort out the grammar in this sentence pls? prob a work in prog.... |
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| − | many thanks
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| − | --[[User:Claire Robinson|Claire Robinson]] 22:07, 9 November 2009 (UTC)
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| − | == Grosvenor Gdns ref ==
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| − | HI Miriam
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| − | my internet connection will be down till Friday but am logging in from college... In Grosvenor Gdns page, is there a web ref for the Innovas report in ref no 1? I found one innovas report that might be 'it' at
| + | :Henry Dickinson is managing director of was president of Norton Aluminium, secondary aluminium producer, and was the Aluminium Federation from 2008-9. |
| − | http://www.berr.gov.uk/files/file50254.pdf
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| − | so if this is it, do put it into the ref so people can click on it. Also it's good to put the page no. in a ref if you are referring to specific quote or fact.
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| − | many thanks
| + | thank you! |
| − | Claire R
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| − | == Carrot ==
| + | --[[User:Claire Robinson|Claire Robinson]] 23:14, 19 May 2010 (UTC) |
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| − | Hi Miriam
| + | == Tables == |
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| − | can u just add a ref to the Carrot Communications page where it says its clients include BT, Nestle etc? I assume this may be from Carrot's own website? If so, a ref with weblink to that very page is good.
| + | Hi Miriam, see this page for the coding of your aluminium table http://www.powerbase.info/index.php/Powerbase:How_To_Edit_A_Page#Tables |
| | + | Gives two examples. |
| | + | --[[User:Melissa Jones|Melissa Jones]] 10:09, 8 February 2012 (UTC) |
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| − | thanks!
| + | Also, while i remember could you pls put footnotes outside of punctuation. Thanks! |
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| − | Hi Miriam
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| − | we have a page duplication--we have an old page called Carrot Communications Ltd and your new page called Carrot Communications. Your title is the one I prefer, without "Ltd". Can you, on your next foray into spin, just copy over all the info from the "Ltd" page and put it into the appropriate places on the newer Carrot page? also include any categories etc that are not in the newer page.
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| − | == Social Venture Network Europe ==
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| − | can u pls go into this page and add refs so that we know where the info has come from? this applies even to tedious things like lists of staff/board members etc as we have recently been challenged on whether someone was actually a member of something--fortunately we had a record of the web page concerned! I do something like
| + | == alphabetizing categories == |
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| − | <nowiki>==Board members==</nowiki>
| + | Hi Miriam, could you please make sure all the mining and profiles on individuals have their categories alphabetized, esp when you are creating new ones? Ie so in the actual categories they end up under their surnames, not forenames. I've done a couple already eg Gammell and Tata Thanks!--[[User:Melissa Jones|Melissa Jones]] 22:19, 20 February 2012 (UTC) |
| − | As of November 2009:<nowiki><ref>[http://www.bloggsco.com Our People], Bloggs Co website, accessed 17 Nov 2009</ref></nowiki>
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| − | <nowiki>*Joe Bloggs - chair</nowiki>
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| − | <nowiki>*Jane Biggs - president</nowiki>
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| − | Also if a website does not contain certain info it's esp important to say where we get it from, so can u add a ref to say where you got the 'undeclared' info from?
| + | == thanks/ LME page update? == |
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| − | many thanks for your work. BTW I can't at the moment 'sign' my name electronically as am in funny browser but you can find my talk page and leave msj if needed by going to yours and then substituting my name, Claire Robinson, for yours, and then hit enter.
| + | thanks for letting me know. Could you pls also give the LME page a quick update re its impending (or not?) sale and the players involved. A few short paras should do it... eg this looks interesting as connects to the protecting the warehousing stuff. Plus anything else since Dan's last updating. thanks--[[User:Melissa Jones|Melissa Jones]] 22:33, 20 February 2012 (UTC) |
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| + | sorry, here's the link:http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/feedarticle/10062871 |
| | + | ''But a sale to ICE could run counter to the interests of top bank shareholders in the LME, who fear any new owner would bring more heavy regulation, and hurt their lucrative warehousing business''. --[[User:Melissa Jones|Melissa Jones]] 23:39, 20 February 2012 (UTC) |
questions
HI Miriam
About FoI, I have asked David to reply to you on that as he is the expert on FoI requests.
re who's running Act on Cop, I can only find this re their website -- seems to be a govt thing purely
http://www.actoncopenhagen.decc.gov.uk/en/about
at foot of page.
re who's running Road to Cop, see http://www.roadtocopenhagen.org/ and click on Sponsors and Partners at foot of page.
assume you know about
http://www.spinprofiles.org/index.php/Copenhagen_2009:_Who%27s_Who
as to who is sponsoring COP15, quite scary--I know you have worked on this page recently so sure you do know.
re an article, wd be fantastic if you could do one re who's running all these joints -- personally I think that the "who's running COP 15" topic is food enough but would be good if you could find out anything more. NB we need to addres that question about, does it matter that car cos, airline cos etc sponsor these things as they have been part of prob. but maybe it's good because they can also be part of solution?? what way are car and airline cos going re the fuel they depend on? do they want to prolong the oil culture?
if you do an article -- can be very plain, just who and what -- then we can publicise thru twitter, spinwatch etc.
pls do add to climate portal page whatever you like -- this is definitely the idea of spin and my role is just to make sure that dodgy stuff doesn't go in and to edit what does go in, in line with our style, grammar etc. continuous improvement is the idea...
many thanks for your great work.
--Claire Robinson 12:45, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
--Claire Robinson 14:15, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
re Wyn Jones
HI Miriam
http://www.spinprofiles.org/index.php?title=Wyn_Jones
i have wyn jones getting OBE in 2004 in this article
http://www.nebusiness.co.uk/business-news/interviews-with-business-people/2008/08/26/defender-of-jobs-foresees-new-battle-51140-21603807/
you have 2003, not sure which is right. looked for the source you mention, Newcastle Journal,
THE JOURNAL (Newcastle, UK). 'Jonny's made it a palace hat-trick', December 31, 2003
found a Gale Cengage archive source
http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Jonny%27s+made+it+a+palace+hat-trick.%28News%29-a0111757170
but doesn't mention wyn jones. can u try to sort?
many thanks
--Claire Robinson 13:56, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
Al Federation
HI Miriam
http://www.spinprofiles.org/index.php?title=Aluminium_Federation
few little things:
1. can u give source for this
ALFED also run the All-Party Parliamentary Group for the UK Aluminium Industry.
2. if using indented block quotes (using a colon to indent block quote), don't use quote marks in addition, unless you need them for quotes within the quote, if that makes sense.
3. use colon to lead into quotes, not semicolon, and avoid using "that" before the quote, in constructions like "said that:" Just "said" is neater. eg
When he got into power in 2001, Smith appointed a biotech lobbyist as his environment secretary. Smith said:
- I thought it was a good idea at the time.
that's it! glad you are working on the Al industry.
BW
--Claire Robinson 14:17, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
coding names of lords etc
Hi Miriam
a quickie on doing the coding when you talk about a person other than by their real name, eg if they are a Lord or Baroness, as in
http://www.spinprofiles.org/index.php?title=All-Party_Parliamentary_Group_for_the_UK_Aluminium_Industry&action=edit§ion=4
see how I've done these--it's real name first, and this will be the name of their page if they have one, and then a vertical line | , then the name they go by/are called in our article:
*[[Garfield Davies|Lord Davies of Coity]]
*[[David Brookman|Lord Brookman]]
*[[Olive Nicol|Baroness Nicol]]
can u now go in and do
in same way? I look up their real names on wiki.
thanks
--Claire Robinson 17:38, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
refs urls
Hi Miriam
when doing a url in a ref, don't forget to include the http:// bit of the url or the hotlink doesn't work. so it should be:
<ref>Aluminium Association News [http://www.secat.net/news/docs/Aluminum_Association_Board.pdf "Secat’s Subodh Das Elected Member of Aluminum Association Board"] Accessed 30/04/10</ref>
Not
<ref>Aluminium Association News [www.secat.net/news/docs/Aluminum_Association_Board.pdf "Secat’s Subodh Das Elected Member of Aluminum Association Board"] Accessed 30/04/10</ref>
that's it!
thanks and BW
--Claire Robinson 18:45, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
coding the category on a person's page
Hi Miriam
at the foot of a page with the name of a person as its title, in the category coding, you just need to add their name with surname first, then that page will arrange itself in the category under their surname. So on Kathryn Fuller's page (I've done that one so you can go into Edit and see what I've done) we have
[[Category:Aluminium Industry|Fuller, Kathryn]]
if you can add this naming style to all your new pages, that'll be great.
BW
--Claire Robinson 09:29, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
Henry Dickinson
Hi Miriam
can u sort out the grammar in this sentence pls? prob a work in prog....
- Henry Dickinson is managing director of was president of Norton Aluminium, secondary aluminium producer, and was the Aluminium Federation from 2008-9.
thank you!
--Claire Robinson 23:14, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
Tables
Hi Miriam, see this page for the coding of your aluminium table http://www.powerbase.info/index.php/Powerbase:How_To_Edit_A_Page#Tables
Gives two examples.
--Melissa Jones 10:09, 8 February 2012 (UTC)
Also, while i remember could you pls put footnotes outside of punctuation. Thanks!
alphabetizing categories
Hi Miriam, could you please make sure all the mining and profiles on individuals have their categories alphabetized, esp when you are creating new ones? Ie so in the actual categories they end up under their surnames, not forenames. I've done a couple already eg Gammell and Tata Thanks!--Melissa Jones 22:19, 20 February 2012 (UTC)
thanks/ LME page update?
thanks for letting me know. Could you pls also give the LME page a quick update re its impending (or not?) sale and the players involved. A few short paras should do it... eg this looks interesting as connects to the protecting the warehousing stuff. Plus anything else since Dan's last updating. thanks--Melissa Jones 22:33, 20 February 2012 (UTC)
sorry, here's the link:http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/feedarticle/10062871
But a sale to ICE could run counter to the interests of top bank shareholders in the LME, who fear any new owner would bring more heavy regulation, and hurt their lucrative warehousing business. --Melissa Jones 23:39, 20 February 2012 (UTC)
