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[[Charlie Flowers]] is the leader of the [[Fighting Cocks]], described in a review by the Yorkshire newspaper, the ''Selby Times'' as an "Essex gypsy band":
 
[[Charlie Flowers]] is the leader of the [[Fighting Cocks]], described in a review by the Yorkshire newspaper, the ''Selby Times'' as an "Essex gypsy band":
 
::There's a real anti extremism/terrorism element to the music as well, so handle with care as it's purposefully designed to offend. As the Cock's mastermind Charlie Flowers states "our guitars kill Al Qaeda"! Quite!<ref>[http://www.selbytimes.co.uk/Register.aspx?ReturnURL=http://www.selbytimes.co.uk/music-reviews/The-Fighting-Cocks-Music-For.4061201.jp The Fighting Cocks: Music For Lapdancers], Selby Times, 7 May 2008.</ref>
 
::There's a real anti extremism/terrorism element to the music as well, so handle with care as it's purposefully designed to offend. As the Cock's mastermind Charlie Flowers states "our guitars kill Al Qaeda"! Quite!<ref>[http://www.selbytimes.co.uk/Register.aspx?ReturnURL=http://www.selbytimes.co.uk/music-reviews/The-Fighting-Cocks-Music-For.4061201.jp The Fighting Cocks: Music For Lapdancers], Selby Times, 7 May 2008.</ref>
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Flowers attended the counter-demonstration against a cancelled protest by [[Islam4UK]] in Piccadilly Circus on 31 October 2009. Two separate counter-protests were organised by [[British Muslims for Secular Democracy]] and by English nationalists.<ref>Sunny Hundal, [http://www.pickledpolitics.com/archives/6390 Pictures from Today's anti-Islamist Demo], 'Pickled Politics'', 31 October 2009. Flowers appears in the bottom left of the second photo. [http://liberalconspiracy.org/images/events/bmsd_demo2.jpg]</ref>
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==The Cheerleaders==
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Blogger Tim Ireland has accused Flowers of being part of an online campaign of harassment against him:
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::Charlie Flowers (aka 'Ludas Matyi') is the ringleader of a group who call themselves the '[[Cheerleaders]]*'; they turned up at the beginning of the [[Glen Jenvey|Jenvey]] saga, and continued to pester myself and others until [[Dominic Wightman]] intervened. Now it's in Wightman's interests that I suffer for [http://www.bloggerheads.com/archives/2009/09/dominic_wightman.asp what he did to me] (!) these 'Cheerleaders' have suddenly/mysteriously returned with a vengeance, and have been repeatedly publishing my home address online and broadcasting it to audiences that are hostile to me alongside claims that I am a bully, a stalker, a Nazi, and an ally of religious extremists.<ref>Tim Ireland [http://www.bloggerheads.com/archives/2009/09/charlie_flowers.asp Meet Charlie Flowers (aka Ludas Matyi)], ''Bloggerheads'', 30 September 2009.</ref>
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In December 2009, [[Shooter Kirpachi]] published on the Cheerleaders Facebook page a picture of Flowers with [[English Democrats]] supporters [[Darren Marsh]] and [[Bill Baker]]. Flowers appeared to be holding a poster for the [[One Law For All]] campaign.<ref>[http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=30502742&o=all&op=1&view=all&subj=35673288170&aid=-1&id=1362516030#!/photo.php?pid=30410378&o=all&op=1&view=all&subj=35673288170&aid=-1&id=1362516030&fbid=1159771278773 Photos from Cheerleadered!, Photo 30 of 56], Facebook, accessed 6 February 2010.</ref>
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In February 2010 this picture was noted by the ''TalkIslam'' blog, which suggested Flowers had links with the [[English Defence League]] (EDL).<ref>johnpi, [http://talkislam.info/2010/02/01/cyber-stalker-charlie-flowers-english/ Cyber-stalker Charlie Flowers’ English Defense League connection], Talk Islam,1 February 2010.</ref>
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Shortly afterwards, Kirpachi published a picture of Flowers with Marsh and two members of the EDL, one of whom was the group's youth leader [[Joel Titus]].<ref>[http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=30502123&id=1362516030&op=1&view=all&subj=35673288170&aid=-1&oid=35673288170#!/photo.php?pid=30502742&id=1362516030&op=1&view=all&subj=35673288170&aid=-1&oid=35673288170&fbid=1203455530852 Photos from Cheerleadered!, Photo 2 of 56], Facebook, accessed 6 February 2010.</ref><ref>Richard Bartholomew, [http://barthsnotes.wordpress.com/2010/02/06/english-defence-league-faction-meets-with-charlie-flowers-and-cheerleader-friends/ English Defence League Faction Meets with Charlie Flowers and “Cheerleader” Friends], 6 February 2010.</ref>
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==Meeting Alan Lake==
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According to blogger Richard Bartholomew, Flowers posted on Facebook in late 2010 about having a two hour meeting with [[Alan Lake]], a counterjihad activist later revealed to be a funder and strategist of the EDL, [[Abdullah al-Andalusi]] of the [[Muslim Debate Initiative]] and [[Paul Williams]], likely the [[Family Security Matters]] contributor.<ref name="Barts2">[http://barthsnotes.com/2010/12/16/alan-lake-and-a-couple-of-friends/ Alan Lake and a Couple of Friends], Bartholomew's Notes on Religion, 16 December 2010</ref>
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==Affiliations==
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==Contact==
 
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[[Category: Cheerleaders|Flowers, Charlie]][[Category: Islam Critics|Flowers, Charlie]]

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Charlie Flowers is the leader of the Fighting Cocks, described in a review by the Yorkshire newspaper, the Selby Times as an "Essex gypsy band":

There's a real anti extremism/terrorism element to the music as well, so handle with care as it's purposefully designed to offend. As the Cock's mastermind Charlie Flowers states "our guitars kill Al Qaeda"! Quite![1]

Flowers attended the counter-demonstration against a cancelled protest by Islam4UK in Piccadilly Circus on 31 October 2009. Two separate counter-protests were organised by British Muslims for Secular Democracy and by English nationalists.[2]

The Cheerleaders

Blogger Tim Ireland has accused Flowers of being part of an online campaign of harassment against him:

Charlie Flowers (aka 'Ludas Matyi') is the ringleader of a group who call themselves the 'Cheerleaders*'; they turned up at the beginning of the Jenvey saga, and continued to pester myself and others until Dominic Wightman intervened. Now it's in Wightman's interests that I suffer for what he did to me (!) these 'Cheerleaders' have suddenly/mysteriously returned with a vengeance, and have been repeatedly publishing my home address online and broadcasting it to audiences that are hostile to me alongside claims that I am a bully, a stalker, a Nazi, and an ally of religious extremists.[3]

In December 2009, Shooter Kirpachi published on the Cheerleaders Facebook page a picture of Flowers with English Democrats supporters Darren Marsh and Bill Baker. Flowers appeared to be holding a poster for the One Law For All campaign.[4]

In February 2010 this picture was noted by the TalkIslam blog, which suggested Flowers had links with the English Defence League (EDL).[5]

Shortly afterwards, Kirpachi published a picture of Flowers with Marsh and two members of the EDL, one of whom was the group's youth leader Joel Titus.[6][7]

Meeting Alan Lake

According to blogger Richard Bartholomew, Flowers posted on Facebook in late 2010 about having a two hour meeting with Alan Lake, a counterjihad activist later revealed to be a funder and strategist of the EDL, Abdullah al-Andalusi of the Muslim Debate Initiative and Paul Williams, likely the Family Security Matters contributor.[8]

Affiliations

Contact

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Notes

  1. The Fighting Cocks: Music For Lapdancers, Selby Times, 7 May 2008.
  2. Sunny Hundal, Pictures from Today's anti-Islamist Demo, 'Pickled Politics, 31 October 2009. Flowers appears in the bottom left of the second photo. [1]
  3. Tim Ireland Meet Charlie Flowers (aka Ludas Matyi), Bloggerheads, 30 September 2009.
  4. Photos from Cheerleadered!, Photo 30 of 56, Facebook, accessed 6 February 2010.
  5. johnpi, Cyber-stalker Charlie Flowers’ English Defense League connection, Talk Islam,1 February 2010.
  6. Photos from Cheerleadered!, Photo 2 of 56, Facebook, accessed 6 February 2010.
  7. Richard Bartholomew, English Defence League Faction Meets with Charlie Flowers and “Cheerleader” Friends, 6 February 2010.
  8. Alan Lake and a Couple of Friends, Bartholomew's Notes on Religion, 16 December 2010